My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Forum Archive (nuked Western Animation thread)
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#177401
The name "Basil" still bothers me. Who in the fandom thought of that? It just seems like such a stupid name for a dragon.
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#177402 from the Land of Classics
@Moe So, essentially, where some see world building and expansion, you see it as destroying the established world instead?

I'm not sure how "Angel kicks out Fluttershy" or "Pinkie acts more generic" or "Ponies suddenly drive human-esque tractors" could be anything other than destroying an established world, but thanks anyway.

Moe, I find it funny that you put an episode in which a character got a pet in your personal discontinuity list.

Huh? Where did I call "May the Best Pet Win" discontinuity?

... Oh, you meant "Dragon Quest." Silly me.

edited 27th Apr '12 11:05:21 PM by MoeDantes

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#177403
I was talking about the inclusion of technology and other races. Characterization is a completely different issue.

edited 27th Apr '12 11:06:44 PM by PerpetualLurker

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#177404 from Appleloosa
I still don't see how Pinkie was OOC in A Friend In Deed. But enough talk, I'm going to bed.
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#177405
Besides, the dragons we saw looked male. And we men are monsters.
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#177406 from The Magitek Holyland
Equestria is a primarily pony-popululated province, yes. Hell, it was founded by a few firece fillies, but I see no reason to assume that it goes as far as everyone else being little more than labor. I mean, really? That seems pretty damn dark for this show.

This is the best version imo.

I cannot let this sentiment go unchallenged.

Nothing is better in a villain song then the proper touch of ominous.

edited 27th Apr '12 11:09:44 PM by Enlong

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#177407 from Singapore
We've had this discussion of pony tech hundreds of pages back, they clearly have a lot of tech that is post-1800s (microwaves are evolved from magnetrons which are derived from radar in the World Wars era, the auto cider press is just an upscaled mechanical food processor like the little one Rarity has, Dashie and Rarity refer to tanks and bullets, and they have 20th-century camo gear even though the Royal Guards wear traditional plate), but they tend to live comfy simple agrarian lifestyles because they obviously find it convenient enough for them.

On top of that, if we are to consider the show "consistent" with the old G1 flavor that the world is full of killer everythings that makes Australia look like the Garden of Eden, then Equestria is just Dream Valley after the ponies really band together to manually carve a harmonious and peaceful world out of a hellhole where megafauna predators rule the jungles.

edited 27th Apr '12 11:11:26 PM by AceOfScarabs

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#177408 from The Woods. Where else?
Wait, the full version of Love is in Bloom is out?! YESSS

(In case you missed it:)

edited 27th Apr '12 11:12:08 PM by GreatGodPan

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#177409
[up]Lol, late to the party Pan?
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#177410
Where have we even seen microwave ovens?

edited 27th Apr '12 11:13:49 PM by PerpetualLurker

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#177411 from The Woods. Where else?
Hey, I don't spend my every waking hour on Equestria Daily :(
Spooky.
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#177412 from Singapore
@lurker: IIRC there was one in Rarity's kitchen, Fluttershy's kitchen, or Sugarcube Corner. I didn't notice it myself until another troper pointed it out.
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#177413
[up][up]Neither do I, it's like every 4 hourstongue
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#177414 from Texas
@Enlong:That one is pretty good but I still like The Living Tombstone version better.

Hey, I don't spend my every waking hour on Equestria Daily :(

Course not, that's what this thread is for. smile

edited 27th Apr '12 11:17:35 PM by Bluespade

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#177415
Well, I double checked a few scenes with the Rarity's kitchen and Sugarcube Corner's kitchen and couldn't find a microwave. Are you sure you aren't thinking of that one playset that had a microwave in the kitchen? I think that was pointed out some time ago as being strange.
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#177416 from the Land of Classics
I was talking about the inclusion of technology and other races.

Oh, well with regard to that stuff, I feel like there's a fine line between what's "worldbuilding and expansion" and what is just throwing random stuff in. 26 episodes and a four-month wait are long enough for certain conventions to be established in the mind of a viewer.

I still don't see how Pinkie was OOC in A Friend In Deed. But enough talk, I'm going to bed.

Pinkie wasn't "OOC" necessarily, she was just blander than usual because the episode felt like it was trying to get away from the previous "she's annoying but you can't help but love her" vibe and replace it with more of a "look at her she's such a goody-four-shoes!" vibe.

It's a fine point, and you'd probably need some writing experience to really see it, but it's like the difference between Twilight Sparkle and that book-lover from Strawberry Shortcake (I forget her name).
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#177417 from New York
Uh..."That version" is the original.
I think the reason I prefer the original is that part near the end with the polka-step. It just seems to fit Discord so well.

[up]Why would you even remember her name in the first place?

edited 27th Apr '12 11:27:58 PM by Swasfews

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#177418
Wasn't Pinkie being annoying was the entire reason for the conflict in A Friend In Deed?

edited 27th Apr '12 11:24:17 PM by PerpetualLurker

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#177419
No, it was cause Cranky was a grouch.
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#177420 from the Land of Classics
Wasn't Pinkie being annoying was the entire reason for the conflict in A Friend In Deed?

She was being annoying to Doodle. But ONLY to Doodle.

Previously, most people acted as if she was weird/annoying but tolerated her because hey she's harmless and even fun sometimes. This episode? She's literally friends with everybody and the entire town loves her unconditionally.
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#177421 from The Magitek Holyland
No, it was because Pinkie didn't know when to leave him alone. She only really became sympathetic in the end, when she did something to try and make him happy; rather than doing it to befriend him, or get him to accept her apology. That is, she accepted that he didn't want to associate with her, and that he couldn't forgive her for destroying his scrapbook. But she still wanted him to be happy.

I like the episode because I think it's a good aspect for her character to have.

The aspect of Laughter is not just an abounding happiness, it's the desire to make others happy.

[up] You do remember that it was established that she knows everyone as early as episode 1?

edited 27th Apr '12 11:32:17 PM by Enlong

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#177422 from Somewhere
"Most people."

That's an odd way to spell "Ginger."

edited 27th Apr '12 11:34:28 PM by takashi.0

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#177423 from Singapore
The episode's from Pinkie's pov, more or less, of course she'd believe that everypony loves her. Also she's definitely a cheerbringer and welcome just for helping keep spirits up.
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#177424 from the Land of Classics
There's a huge difference between being known by everyone, and being universally loved.

And while it could be just a perspective thing ("it looks that way because that's how she sees it" etc) the ep really does come off like its literally true.

edited 27th Apr '12 11:33:27 PM by MoeDantes

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#177425 from Somewhere
[up] It was a rib at Ginger's expense.