So what was the joke, for people who haven't played Prof Layton?

Demise is Girahim's master, and the person he is trying to revive, but Girahim is really the true Big Bad, IMO. Demise is hardly active in the plot.

hello again everyone! I hope the debat is over already

But you fight him at the end right? I guess you could say it's Hijacked By Demise then?

Yeah, but it doesn't come out of nowhere. Girahim's goals are made clear pretty early on.

@story Well, in Curious Village, villagers would occasionally be abducted by a strange old man, but would say that they generally felt fatigue beforehand. (Like you stated a while ago) Turns out the village's residents were robots and the old man, aka Bruno, was "kidnapping" them to fix them.

I know you're an supposed to be an AI, but...

EDIT: Hello again, Fallen

edited 17th Mar '12 4:58:56 PM by crowlover

hello again everyone! I hope the debat is over already

Yep, we're on another Zelda derail now.

@Story

Thanks!

ihave always wanted to play a Zelda game. they seem like fun

EDIT hello crow!

edited 17th Mar '12 5:04:07 PM by FallenLegend

I swear, the people in this thread like Zelda more than ponies.

I just watched a video of the fight with Ganon in Twilight Princess. Link is such an idiot. He should just grab Ganon's cape.

@Fallen: Hey. I suggest starting with either Ocarina of Time or Wind Waker.

Eh... I didn't really like Zant. He was cool for a lot of it, but then he just started falling apart near the end. Revealing his real, dumb face, pitching a little hissy fit at the end, acting like an idiot during the fight... I just didn't like him after Ganon showed up.

Zant was cool until he had his breakdown. I couldn't take him seriously during that fight.

@JT

thanks :) I have heard a lot about ocarina and that fairy nobody likes lol. I will try to check them out.

Finally got caught up!

@ start: Rainbow! No...means...no!. Good for you FS. Stand your ground. Also...you so cute!

Anyway, although I enjoyed this episode...I can't call it spectacular. There was some interesting parts, but nothing really jumped out at me.

I did love Spike and Rarity in it though. Rarity was at her best once again.

@Fallen: I think Navi's annoyingness got blown out of proportion. She's aggravating, but there are way worse helpers out there.

edited 17th Mar '12 5:08:07 PM by JapaneseTeeth

I swear, the people in this thread like Zelda more than ponies.

Hey, I didn't start it this time. I tried to derail it back to ponies, but everyone ignored me.

Derail to ponies?...

I love how people give Fallen reccomendations and not me

Huh, I must be one of the only people to enjoy a Villainous Breakdown around here. People were saying the same thing about Azula during all of the ATLA discussion a while back.

edited 17th Mar '12 5:09:48 PM by PerpetualLurker

Villainous Breakdown(s) are fine as long as they don't undermine the villain

Yeah, I never took any real issue with Navi. Then again, I didn't react to anything in that game like people expected. I didn't find the water temple at all confusing, and it's certainly not the best I've ever seen.

It's a very middle-of-the-line game as far as I'm concerned. Not bad but not spectacular. I really liked the spirit temple, though.

and I HATED jabu-jabu.

It... kind of does. It makes him really hard to take seriously, because it isn't a cool one like Rattigan's, where he flips out and goes for the kill. He just starts... flailing and screaming and generally acting like a little kid.

edited 17th Mar '12 5:11:39 PM by kegisak

About the latest episode, I thought it was very interesting from a sociological perspective. There was definitely Values Dissonance going on between the dragon culture (or at least the culture of that group of teenage dragons) versus the pony culture that Spike knows, and it also comes down very strong on the nurture side of the nature vs. nurture debate. There also seemed to be a message of "it's okay for a male to hang out with girls and do traditionally girly things" with the way Spike decided he preferred the pony culture to the macho dragons, which is probably also a metaphor for the brony fans versus other males who would mock them for liking cutesy ponies. While it would have been nice to see a dragon with a more obviously nice personality, that would have made it potentially harder for Spike to decide to stay with the ponies, and might raise even more potential Unfortunate Implications. Also, the fact that the other dragons were too brutal for Spike's tastes makes it also a callback to the old G1 story with pretty much the same plot. That old episode even had Spike making friends with a bird!

And as Ginger and some others noted, the dragons weren't all mean. They had high standards for being tough enough to hang out with them, but they still accepted Spike as part of their group. As for the phoenix eggs, Ginger has a good point that these aren't ordinary bird eggs, they're phoenix eggs. Spike wouldn't have necessarily known this, but smashing one wouldn't necessarily kill the baby inside. It could, at worst, simply injure it, or even make it hatch and the dragons would have an angry baby phoenix to deal with. In fact, that could have been part of the "game, " to fight something that even as a baby could still burn a dragon. And even if it did kill the egg, there would still be the angry parents to deal with.

As a final note, I think my favorite part of the story was Fluttershy showing that "no means no" at the beginning. Especially because that was the new "catchphrase" that Iron Will learned from her.

Relevant to both ponies and Zelda!

Yeah, I didn't like Azula's breakdown either. Though the finale had bigger issues.

I love how people give Fallen reccomendations and not me

Are you kidding? We give you recommendations all the time!

In other news, I think my capitalization is broken. It often takes me multiple tries to get a word capitalized.