"I always forget (or just black out to spare myself the agony) what Wilson's most lethal weapon is... his mouth! He'll talk nonsense until you surrender or commit suicide." Domino about Deadpool.

That wasn't so much about losing to Rainbow so much as losing unfairly. I get the feeling that if it would have a been a fair and square loss she would have taken it better. And again, it's as much her disappointment at failing to get money for the town as pride. I can't say that pride had no factor in it, but it's certainly not the only thing.

edited 21st Jan '12 8:06:49 AM by JapaneseTeeth

AJ had no problem with losing to RD. The issue was she felt RD cheated, it was the cheating part, not the being beaten part that upset her.

Keep in mind, Rainbow Dash cheated.

Glad to see we're all reconciling quickly over this :D

Using your natural talents (flying in this case) shouldn't count as cheating.

edited 21st Jan '12 8:08:18 AM by Chariot

Of course, AJ did overreact a bit; I would have assumed that she'd explain to her friends what happened, and maybe tell them to keep a lid on it rather than keeping them in the dark entirely...

Dangit I am so conflicted over this episode. It has one or two serious issues, but at the same time there's some really good characterization for AJ in there...

Let's not have this argument again. It never ends well.

edited 21st Jan '12 8:08:35 AM by JapaneseTeeth

AJ was disappointed in herself.

Y'all know what's it like to be branded the best in town, to say you'll ace the tourney this season? Yah? Well, how about when you don't even ace a single contest? How about them apples?!

To be fair, I can relate to making the same mistake as AJ. I know that feel pony.

I don't believe it, my Pinkie Sense DOES work! I totally guessed she would lose.

edited 21st Jan '12 8:09:50 AM by AceOfScarabs

Guys. Don't bring up the cheating thing. Inevitably He will show up.

@Born. No, the lengths they went to FORCE AJ to tell them something she clearly didn't want to was just obnoxious

so i saw the episode.

HOLY SHIT IT'S DERPY OH MY GOD

...yea, great episode.

Can someone check on Applejack Pony? I'm kind of worried about him.

AJP? You there brony?

Again, I didn't find them annoying at all.

No, I'm leaving the fandom because most people didn't like the episode and I did. I mean, I need to conform to the community I'm a part of, and that's the TV Tropes community. But in real life, most people dislike FIM period, so then I'd need to conform to American society. Which up until now I've detested, but now I see I have to follow their norms if I want to be happy. But then again, I don't feel happy doing something I don't like. But you know, there's some things you have to do, no matter if you like it or not.

edited 21st Jan '12 8:15:53 AM by ApplejackPony

Y'know what. I called it. I knew this ep was gonna generate arguments but Oh, oh I never DREAMED that this would happen

YMMV then

Oh, c'mon. I constantly complain that I'm in the minority but I haven't left the fandom

edited 21st Jan '12 8:12:54 AM by gingerninja666

There there, Applejack. I loved it. :3

@Born: I think the issue is more that rather than respecting AJ's desire for privacy, they basically resorted to psychological torture. I get that it's probably supposed to come across as a Cool and Unusual Punishment, but it's still kinda mean to do something like that to force somebody to tell you something they'd rather keep to themselves.

@Applejack: You don't have to conform to anything like that. If you like the episode, you like it, and that's that. You don't have to bend to the majority to fit in. That would be boring. If you're capable of enjoying something that someone else can't, more power to you.

edited 21st Jan '12 8:14:42 AM by JapaneseTeeth

It felt like one of those stock plots to me. You know, the standard 'why didn't you trust me to tell you when I was ready' thing. But they were going pretty hardcore on her. pretty much harassing her, sicking Pinkie on her... It was just sort of poorly handled. Which is odd because AKR is usually a really good writer, but I guess everyone has their off-days.

but now I see I have to follow their norms if I want to be happy

No you don't. You need to do what you want to do if you want to be happy. It doesn't matter that someone doesn't share your opinion AJ, people are allowed to think differently. You shouldn't feel like you have to leave just because you like something other people don't. There's plenty of room for both opinions.

Beside, majority rule actually seems to be in favour of the episode. Hell, I'm not even in a very good mood today in general, that may be colouring my perception. It might look better on a re-watch.

edited 21st Jan '12 8:16:05 AM by kegisak

...I think I realized why I lurk more than I post here. I can't take this show that seriously and always just judge it based on how it entertains me. I feel out of place in most discussions.

I really liked this episode, I'd even put it in my top three season 2 episodes. According to Cherry Jubilee, Applejack was awesome in the competition, she had "Never saw a pony win so many ribbons in all my life" after all. And it's not like her not getting first place came out of nowhere; she messed up when practicing, after all. On a related note, I agree with whoever said that AJ handled it much better than the others.

I think I enjoyed the stream's reaction to the Derpy scene more than I enjoyed the actual scene itself too. So much capslock DERPY. But, can someone tell me what Derpy's first line was? I can't really understand her.

I also...liked Pinkie in this episode. (sorry) I don't know why, but her rambling was just more hilarious than usual. I've used annoyance as a weapon before, it works surprisingly well. Full blown angry Pinkie was also really frightening.

Also, that dogpile on AJ at the end had to hurt...a lot.

edited 21st Jan '12 8:13:59 AM by Swasfews

@ Applejack Pony but most of fandom like this episode.

@ AJP, I never said I absolutely hated it, just that there were some flaws to the episode.

I commend the rest of the group for not sitting back and letting Applejack destroy her own life.

And using the word "torture" to describe what happened in this episode is completely and utterly ridiculous.

edited 21st Jan '12 8:17:39 AM by BornIn1142

...people disliked it? //

i-....i might follow AJ.

(just kidding, but seriously, i'm shocked)

Swasfews: BROHOOF!

edited 21st Jan '12 8:16:35 AM by RobbieRotten

Yeah, I don't hate it either. And I'm actually rethinking my statement of about how weak it was. It's not a bad episode, by any stretch of the imagination. There are one or two problems, but there's a lot of good stuff in there.

@Born: Yeah, that word makes it sound way worse than it is, but they still went to the point of trying to coerce her into talking about something that she didn't want to talk about. And she was hardly ruining her life either, she was just planning on working until she earned the money that she couldn't win. Granted, if she would have let them know they wouldn't have assumed that she was leaving for good...

edited 21st Jan '12 8:17:52 AM by JapaneseTeeth

@Swa That's... true actually. that must have been AJ's issue. She tried to train for EVERY event rather than focusing on a few of them.

That's... quite impressive when you think about it