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#52801 Enlong Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:05:06 PM from The Magitek Holyland from The Magitek Holyland

So, the first thought is the punishment, rather than prevention?

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#52802 Red Savant Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:05:16 PM from Eastern US from Eastern US

Railing for exile because Spike, as he gets older, might become dangerous to the citizens of Ponyville. This is predicated by a scene wherein townspeople react badly to Spike getting larger.

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#52803 gingerninja 666 Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:06:42 PM from Aboard The Damocles from Aboard The Damocles

My first thought is the safety of me, my family, my friends, and the other residents of Ponyville

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"

edited 11th Dec '11 6:08:00 PM by gingerninja666

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#52804 Kyler Thatch Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:09:21 PM

Implying you're not friends with Spikey-Wikey?

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#52805 Applelight Limited Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:09:46 PM from Manehattan to Canterlot from Manehattan to Canterlot

Well, nobody was too enraged when Twilight ballsed up in Lesson Zero...or at Snips and Snails for accidently bringing in the big bear cub.

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#52806 Enlong Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:10:45 PM from The Magitek Holyland from The Magitek Holyland

Exile actually might be a dangerous option in this case, now that I think about it.

Because there's always the possibility that the dragon you threw out of the town will (without anyone to curb his greed) grow old, huge, and wicked, and eventually think to himself "hey... you know who made me really angry? I wonder if they can exile a guy from a pile of ash?"

Working on curbing his greed is a safer option than hoping that when he becomes huge, he'll either forget about your town or continue to see things your way as he increasingly becomes greedy and wrathful.

edited 11th Dec '11 6:12:37 PM by Enlong

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#52807 gingerninja 666 Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:10:59 PM from Aboard The Damocles from Aboard The Damocles

He's not my ONLY friend. In his mindless state he could trample my family.

Also, why couldn't he just go live in Canterlot till he's fully grown? Celestia would have the unshakable power to keep him under control (It'd be MUCH safer than Ponyville anyway)

I wouldn't just kick him out and expect him to live off the land.

edited 11th Dec '11 6:13:07 PM by gingerninja666

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#52808 Kyler Thatch Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:11:50 PM

At Fluttershy, for keeping that one parasprite and restarting the whole mess?

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#52809 kegisak Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:13:26 PM

The difference between Spike here and Twilight and snips and snails is that they simply screwed something up. They have the ability to learn from this, and are fully in control over whther or not they will do it again. Spike, on the other hand, was not in control of what he did. And instinct was triggered and he rampaged. Twilight and Snips and snails caused problems, Spike was a problem.

#52810 Enlong Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:13:42 PM from The Magitek Holyland from The Magitek Holyland

They certainly weren't happy with her.

Or with Pinkie, whose runaway cymbal stopped Dash from throwing out the second batch.

But as an instinctual problem, it's now a known issue with warning signs and a clear solution.

edited 11th Dec '11 6:14:21 PM by Enlong

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#52811 Applelight Limited Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:14:30 PM from Manehattan to Canterlot from Manehattan to Canterlot

I was just about to say that. Well done!

Well, this is an idealistic setting...something will be worked out I guess.

edited 11th Dec '11 6:14:48 PM by ApplelightLimited

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#52812 Kyler Thatch Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:14:42 PM

Obviously, the solution is to filter out all gifts given to Spike so that he only gets books.

(kidding)

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#52813 Japanese Teeth Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:16:06 PM from Meinong's jungle from Meinong's jungle

@Ginger: That's not really exile.

Anyway, it's true that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, but that doesn't mean you can screw the few over if you don't need to. I fully agree that they need some sort of preventative measures, and that sending Spike somewhere else is a viable option, just that it isn't the primary option.

But anyway, I think we're going in circles, and it's fairly obvious that whatever conclusion we come to, Spike isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

edited 11th Dec '11 6:16:29 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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#52814 gingerninja 666 Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:17:15 PM from Aboard The Damocles from Aboard The Damocles

As I said, it'd be my first thought. Nowhere near my last. If a better solution exists (which it did in this case) then that's the solution which would be used.

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#52815 Mousa The 14 Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:18:11 PM from Northern Virginia from Northern Virginia

That's horrible. I mean cruel. To him. I would love a book for a gift but that's just mean.

So yeah, while I'm out I find out two of my favorite people want to EXILE best pony dragon?

.......

I agree. Sort of. I mean.... There has to be like a controlled environment they can have him around or something along with half a dozen contingency plans and back up plans and an emergency system.

Spike doesn't deserve to be exiled, he needs to be observed.

edited 11th Dec '11 6:18:35 PM by MousaThe14

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#52816 Applelight Limited Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:20:28 PM from Manehattan to Canterlot from Manehattan to Canterlot

Nice work with the fanon page earlier.

And now time for bed,

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#52817 gingerninja 666 Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:20:55 PM from Aboard The Damocles from Aboard The Damocles

Exile was probably the wrong word to use. If no feesible solution could be found, I'd rather he live in a place that's better suited to stopping him if things go wrong. Like Canterlot.(because of Celestia)

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#52818 Mousa The 14 Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:22:10 PM from Northern Virginia from Northern Virginia

Thank you. I'm glad someone noticed, I wasn't to sue if making The two Detective/Inspectors expies of Shawn and Monk was a good idea.

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#52819 Enlong Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:22:19 PM from The Magitek Holyland from The Magitek Holyland

Although, Canterlot is full of shiny, valuable, hoardable items...

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#52820 Murky Muse Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:24:42 PM

In the long run, if Spike's greed can be controlled, wouldn't keeping him around be a good thing. After all who/what (besides a Physical God) would willingly mess with a town that has a giant firebreathing dragon in residence.

Granted something like this comes up in my fanfic.

#52821 kegisak Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:24:48 PM

So basically just find a environment where the instinct can be watched, and counteracted if it starts to act up? Try to create one in Ponyville, but if that doesn't work find somewhere else where such an environment exists/can be created? Seems like the most reasonable solution.

It sort of seems like the simplest solution would be to isolate him if he ever gets hoardy. He wouldn't have anything left to take, so the instinct might disappear.

#52822 Japanese Teeth Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:25:43 PM from Meinong's jungle from Meinong's jungle

That's basically what my plan would be.

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#52823 Mousa The 14 Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:26:06 PM from Northern Virginia from Northern Virginia

Very true. That's actually a great option, I mean I'm sure it wears off after a while of not hoarding.

edited 11th Dec '11 6:26:19 PM by MousaThe14

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#52824 Enlong Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:26:08 PM from The Magitek Holyland from The Magitek Holyland

Separating a guy from what he wants just makes him want it more.

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#52825 Kyler Thatch Sun, 11th Dec '11 6:26:09 PM

Although, Canterlot is full of shiny, valuable, hoardable items...

It also has two powerful princesses with the intimidating big-voice?

edited 11th Dec '11 6:26:47 PM by KylerThatch

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